Revival

[Static]

I can look at bios and possibly run plots if need be.

[Cyborg]

Ok I quit a few sites so if u need another staff member I'm Here.

[Kazai]

So I'm thinking Booster, Damon, and Static as potential staff? What do you guys think? Sound good?

[Cyborg]

I'm ready

[Fritz Stahl]

I would like to see this place revived, HOWEVER, I want to offer some ideas and such. I think charries here are too OP. I mean, considering what kind of powers you often see around here, a normal guy aka non-super, can barely stand a chance against anybody if he is not wearing battle armor of Fritz' level. I think we should try doing something about it, because the OP-ness harmed our plot muchly so far. Joker ceased to become any sort of great thread since at least 2/3 of charas around here can take him down in one blow, or use some magic shtick... Robin (no offence) is useless against most villains who can take punches... Well, you get my point...

[Static]

While I am willing to be a staff member, I have to ask a few questions/comments that I think need to be addressed in order to make this reboot easier for everyone.

1.) The major thing that I want to address is a part in the overall premise of the site, which is the Great Catastrophe. The idea that an entire generation of Heroes as well as the Villains from the Axis of Evil (probably going to have to make a list of who was taken out) were taken away because a machine had the power to delete them from existence leads me to ask whether this means they never existed at all or were simply vaporized at that point and time. If it is the latter, then my questions on the plot end there, and it probably would be easier for everyone else when making a character as well as running plots. ( I am going to assume that this is the route we are taking, but I am still going to explain what I see as problems with the other route)

If it is the former, then I am going to have to ask how history was altered by removing these heroes and villains from it. Obviously, Batman and Robin would be the only ones to remember the original history, but we will probably have to make a new time-line establishing what happened. I am not sure if everyone is familiar with what happened when Batman and Superman were raised by the three Supers from the future, but I can sum it up by saying it caused a lot of significant changes to Earth's History.

Like I said earlier, a list would probably need to be drawn up on who would have been eliminated because of the Catastophe and how those who are left would have their histories altered.

2.) I have to agree with the point that Fritz brought up about there being a lot of overpowered characters that make it hard to believe that the Joker would be a heavy hitter. I think we are going to have to establish some more limitations on what power combinations we are going to allow people to have as well as requiring more details in power descriptions (or just add a weaknesses section to so there is no arguments about someone having God-like abilities or technology.

Just so you all don't think that I like to poke holes in things, I am going to offer up some possible ideas.

I like the whole Chapter 1 thing because it is creative and also a good justification for what I am about to suggest.

1.) We need to establish some basic groups that characters could naturally flock to like the Teen Titans, JLA, or something along those lines. The whole mass metahuman attack would be reason enough for Drake to start looking into building his own team to handle such incidents as well as possibly training the next generation since most of the defenders of justice that we did have were underage.

2.) I think for site sanity that anyone major to the site plot like Batman or Luthor should be NPCed by staff due to the fact that we can't risk the chance of someone apping them and then disappearing for a large period of time. While I am not good at RPing guys like them, I think that I could manage to pull them off for plots that involve the.

Will add more once I think of them, but I might have over done it with this post.

[Solo]

Alright I voted yes, and since Kazai wants people to talk here are my thoughts.

Even though I was only here for one of them I did enjoy the plot that I was sort of a part of lol, and I read through the joker one, and it was a good idea, and very creative plot.

1) However I think that instead of going on with the current plot we should develop a new one because new people who join might be confused with the on going plot, and not understand which may lead them to leave. If we are going to start anew then we should start with a brand new plot, and go about it from there. I have a few ideas that I could run by the staff if you would like, and we can go from there, but yeah.


2) OPness was the other issue brought up, and I agree with Static on some points of it. While there are many characters that could just obliterate the joker with one punch, and such you have to think that is how it has always been in the DC universe. There are characters in the DC universe that vastly out power others, but its not all about powers all the time. I will use my charrie Solo for an example. Easily one of the most OP on the site I won't deny this. I mean only Superman, and possibly a few others on the site could take him down. However if you look past the powers there are other ways to take him down like the martians mind attack on him. So ingenuity, and roleplaying ability come into play here as well. Though I will agree that if they have certain powers like Solo's superstrength then they should be limited on other abilities that they get.

For example since Solo has Superstrength, Regeneration, and Energy Projection you could say that he gets limited on what other powers he can learn. So he could possibly have Durability, Speed, and Enhanced Senses/Reflexes. They are physical abilities, and make him specialize in something, or another route that he could take would be. Pyrokinesis, Electrokinesis, Laser Vision, and Shadow Walking. Those are all magical, or "special" abilities. So we could break up powers into tiers so that everyone can't have everything. I think seven powers is the max right we should also have a max amount of upgrades that a person can do to their powers as well. So say that I want to upgrade his strength I would only be able to do it like 3 times, and then it would be fully upgraded. Just a thought.

[Booster Gold]

I (Green Lantern, Nightwing, and the eventual Booster Gold) voted yes. I could go on an advertising spree if you wanted me to. I know some people and have enough free time to advertise on plenty of sites.

And just FYI, I'm pretty sure my Green Lantern is the strongest superhero on site, thanks to the Ion entity doubling his power :3.

[Cyborg]

I think that there should be a counter power for each powers that could do something to beat the other opponents or have people have an easy to manipulate weakness. So it would be like when anyone else is trying to beat an opponent they would in a sense do research on them but I say it would have to be dont ICly.

[Fritz Stahl]

I think that the whole thing about "creativity in rp" to overcome most powers won't work. Solo said that mindcontrol and whatever martian used could work. BUT. Martian is among the most OP characters himself, so your Godzilla is restricted to be fought only by people of that power scale. I can't imagine him being defeat by anyone aside of few MOST POWERFUL charries on the site. All others - meh, shrug. Because, like I said, it would completely nerf down non-supers or people who have just 1 non-uber power to give them the edge. I think that since all heroes are gone super-powers should not be THAT greatly manifested. I mean sure superstrength aka lift a small car goes well, but not destroy a building in one blow.

Think about it, if the supers will be not THAT much above level of normal person, they could still be considered super, and give normal villains a chance to actually be threatening. Because if we take one UBERHERO (superman-scale), we'll need one ubervillain to match. And that will lead to epic fight between hero and villain, and others will be watching on sidelines. So the choice comes down to this: either we have a miriad of ubercharries with powers borderlining godmod, which would eventualy become a one big WTF during each battle, or we can have less-powerful charries and a more realistic setup where a bucnh of mooks with baseball bets will have a better shot against you, and where Batman can actually do something aside from being a mastermind sitting on his ass and doing nothing else.

Argument about DC being that way doesn't pass, because they clearly had the same problem, and they aren't perfect at all. They had a bunch of main heroes and a miriad of less important supportive ones. Sure, those got a cameo or two, maybe one day in the limelight episode, but that's it. We're not show that clearly has favoritism. We should have equal opportunities for everyone. I don't see why we need a martial artist guy fighting joker if superman can just fly inside and grind him to dust despite gas, grenade jacket and whatever else he has.

[Cyborg]

I still say let the people have there powers but like in dc almost everyone had a weakness or fear that brought them down. I think that would work best of all. Wouldn't nerd anyone but could make the grounds even for everyone, like when batman took down superman.

[Fritz Stahl]

I agree. These weaknesses must be made plausible. And put a limit on how long they could use powers maybe, before tiring out. No "if he uses something too much he may pass out". More concrete. Tell how much exactly is "too much" and such. Plus said weaknesses should be fairly easy to get. Like, some sort of a flaming guy should be weak to water, but that's common sense. no? Vampires should get hurt by cross sign and light (AND NO BULL-SHITTY EXCUSES on how they trained to resist light and all that). If they wanna have huge powers, they should have weaknesses or drawbacks of equal measure.

[Cyborg]

I agree and if its an op power then they should wear out but if an exceptional power that doesn't give u superman strength or flash speed then it can be used regularly like cyborg and fritz could run up to 60 mph. That's not really super.

[Fritz Stahl]

That's what I said: huge power - huge weaknesses. Running to 60 mph isn't exactly uber.

[Kazai]

Hrmm... Alright, so we'll work on a system for increasing weaknesses. Thoguh I'll still mention that I don't think there is always a way for someone to beat another persno. Such as when robin fought the most powerful characters, he always had help. He had a brilliant mind, but that alone wasn't enough. He needed to work with others. In some situations, teammates were indespinsible.